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Erica Dusette Isogen 5 37681	Posted - 2015.02.16 02:16:13 - [1] - Quote You and your files spying mastery. Please never change. Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: everyone's hopping on the train outright and it's very strange Well, maybe not everyone, but yeah isn't it beautiful. I think EVE's sociology regarding this topic has shifted dramatically over the past two years. There are still some die hard haters, but by and large much of the stigma attatched to things avatar-related has gone. Things are being fed to us slowly and gently, and it's evolving naturally as a result of growing interest. These days it's become okay to enjoy avatars a bit, whereas three years ago you'd be driven from the forums with torches and pitchforks for even mentioning it. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 37711	Posted - 2015.02.16 04:51:15 - [2] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: There are three simple reasons allow us to invite each other into our Captain's Quarters: 1) Role-Players 2) Weirdos that don't find rubbing ships together good enough. 3) $$$ - think people want to buy clothes to show to no one? ( I bet trousers and shoes are flying off the shelves! ) Okay. With that post you've just got a spot on the ballot of my 10 accounts. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 37724	Posted - 2015.02.16 09:17:52 - [3] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: There are three simple reasons allow us to invite each other into our Captain's Quarters: 1) Role-Players 2) Weirdos that don't find rubbing ships together good enough. 3) $$$ - think people want to buy clothes to show to no one? ( I bet trousers and shoes are flying off the shelves! ) Okay. With that post you've just got a spot on the ballot of my 10 accounts. (Unless it's sarcasm, in which case I'll just stick to voting corbexx and no one else lol) It is playfulness mixed with a bit of common sense. Relatively speaking, being able to spawn someone's avatar in your Captain's Quarters is pretty small, the assets all exists, it is just getting the avatars together and checking they are in the same station when the invitation is issued. My hunch feeling is that CCP doens't wnats to feed the WiSers. Give them multiplayer CQ, next will come demands for animations, emotes and God knows what else. And being frank, currently WiS' whole relevance for CCP is a team of TWO (2) developers... and some people oppose that formally in the CSM minutes. I think you're great, and not just because you're a fellow avatar lover, but why do you always have to post so pessimistically about the topic? It does get a little painful to see at times lol hugz Avatar stuff is trickling in and doesn't look like stopping anytime soon. There are Devs dedicated to it, even if only a couple. And with folks like corbexx (and candidates like Jenshae) we are being represented and strides forward, no matter how small, have been made. They will keep being made if we vote for people like them who don't mind spending a little of their time taking this stuff seriously on our behalf. From what I've seen the Devs are receptive, we just need to keep those strides to a realistic distance. Even just a shared CQ in the context Jen talks about would be an enormous step forward, and in itself a catalyst for more future change, so let's be optimistic instead, take baby steps and when we have opportunities like the CSM elections use our votes to put more pro-avatar development CSMs in office. Good times. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 37724	Posted - 2015.02.16 09:30:43 - [4] - Quote Vyl Vit wrote: No one disputes it'd be an enormous step. Claiming it's "forward" is just your opinion. It isn't widely shared by THIS player base. OF the enormous steps that need to be taken, and should be taken, is this ONE of them? Not likely, no matter how dear to your heart it may be. You're the eye-candy fan? Fine. Info panels still rule this game. Praise be the text! Sure, vote for anti-avatar development CSMs then, as is your right. Or anti-highsec, or wormhole, or faction war, or indy or whatever it is that hits your buttons in EVE. I have been, and it's been fantastic to see results. That's what I call steps forward. While we're on the way forward I'll keep enjoying EVE as I love it right now, murdering folks in wormholes and spending my downtime writing and RPing. Praise be to the text! I'll shout you a commiseratory beer in my CQ one day. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 37808	Posted - 2015.02.16 23:36:51 - [5] - Quote You're doing it again. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 37808	Posted - 2015.02.16 23:44:38 - [6] - Quote Vyl Vit wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: I'll shout you a commiseratory beer in my CQ one day. I see...deny the reality and you'll appear to be the only voice...avatar play? That term doesn't even make sense. As for "I'll shout you..." Neither does that. Then, with this level of thought, the sheer congruity of it means you must win! I'll have my TIME Magazine with George Bush on one cover and Vlad the Impailer on the other duke it out while I'm on the crapper....avatar play. Right. Telling someone you'll shout them something is an Australian term meaning you'll buy them something. Now you've learned something today. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38077	Posted - 2015.02.19 12:36:38 - [7] - Quote Alcaman wrote: Shields up! Now you can blast me :) Sprays you with ... confetti Take that. I don't even bother putting shields up these days. Don't really need shields to stop hot air and semantics. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38137	Posted - 2015.02.19 14:45:29 - [8] - Quote Unezka Turigahl wrote: So in summary CCP should spend resources on something that some people in some corps might use sometimes for a select few of their members who are of a certain rank within the corp and who also happen to have the hardware to handle multiple people standing around staring at each other in CQ, while they chat on Teamspeak. A useless feature devoid of actual gameplay, for a pretty narrow band of players. Great. Yeah, CCP should get right on that. I'd pay for it. Just like I already pay for Devs to work on the rest of EVE's aspects that I don't care about or aren't involved in whatsoever. VoV Strangely though, you won't find me in FW threads, in Indy threads, in incursion threads, in ship threads, in really anything other than the places I have fun. Really not sure why detractors love spending their time doing the opposite when it comes to anything related to a WiS concept. Unless of course you think spending Dev time on something that doesn't interest you is tantamount to heresy, in which case here's some ammo, the monument is that way -> Quote: This was the only time that WiS really seemed interesting. To you. Quote: Probably because it was the only time that WiS actually had a point and wasn't just empty eye candy. For you. Quote: And it still wouldn't have been really adding anything new to EVE. For you. Quote: We already gather items via exploration, hacking, and archaeology in our ships. Why would some items now require us to leave our ships for some reason? I dunno, maybe fun? Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38137	Posted - 2015.02.19 14:46:16 - [9] - Quote Quote: Still kind of reeks of trying to force a square peg into a round hole. To you. Quote: But it could have been fun and contained some actual gameplay at least. It would, maybe just not for you though. Quote: Better than standing around staring at each other. For you. So what exactly are you doing here? Trying to save us all from ourselves? BRB heading over to Warfare subforum to rant about Gallente Militia things that have nothing at all to do with anything I do in EVE or find remotely worth my time or money because that's what I do. After that it's onto AFK cloaking in null and maybe I'll go shitup some indy thread too. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38157	Posted - 2015.02.19 15:46:12 - [10] - Quote Unezka Turigahl wrote: I'm actually not against EVE having some sort of avatar-based gameplay. I like my characters and wouldn't mind doing things as them rather than as ships all the time. This is a general discussion about WiS, why it was canned, and what it could have been or could be in the future. Yes, I am expressing MY thoughts on the matter. Duh. Nah, you're saying it's bad because you think it is. Very obvious when reading your posts and how you make your own views a general context, it took me to add the "you"s to demonstrate that. It's really the basis for every point you (try to) make. But beyond my silliness, why was it canned? Well prolly already answered very accurately in the first page. What could it have been? Gee I dunno, don't really want to waste my time thinking about that as it's pointless. I'd rather spend it looking forward to where it's going now. And we can already see that .. well, some of us can. Otherwise I'm over these threads other than tossing in a random comment or rustling a britch or two. If I want WiS there are better ways to go about influencing it's development and I've already been pursuing those for quite a while. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries

Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38513	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:29:28 - [11] - Quote Malcanis wrote: The current and previous EvE EP s have publicly said they have no plans to work on wis. I don't know how to make it simpler for you. Then they're lying because every little advance in avatar development, from clothes to character creator, really is a step ultimately towards a WiS-like feature. Natural evolution, really. Just like the coming and going of exec producers. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38516	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:59:10 - [12] - Quote Boom Boom Longtime wrote: I still aspire to one day open an avatar beauty boutique / salon in one of the available trade units in the main Plaza of Amarrs Emperor Family station. I envisage a grand public transport hyper loop network augmented by interconnecting metro tunnels allowing for small, but powerful and speedy mechanised avatar mounts to travel along as a means to conveniently, and quickly commute between my CQ and desired destinations within the station environment. Courting avatars might take scenic hand held walks along the main promenade at night, enjoying each otherGÇÖs company as they digest the visual splendour of the views from the observation domes offering magnificent vantage points of the planet below emanating with the solar glow from distant stars. Those who enjoy a flutter might frequent the gambling booths with their hard-earned intersteller kredits. The double your isk slot machines will no doubt be rigged and best avoided however. Such establishments would require a contingent of burly security personnel to keep those who encounter misfortune from becoming unruly. Thirsty capsuleers might sate their palates in one of the many mead taverns or refreshment parlours. Those of high esteem and wealth would likely gather at social establishments on the upper levels but nothing might rival the lively atmospheric buzz the rowdy common capsuleers could generate in the lower level musical dancing halls. The midnight candle bistros or delicacies in alternative eateries would be a fine way to wind down and end an evening after having absorbed exhilarating entertainment at the grand Amarr Cineplex with all the spectacles it has to offer. The Gallente Girls Go-Go show no doubt would not be for those faint of heart or a prudish nature. This is the vision, a glimpse of the future. Please make it a reality. More than just a pretty face, Boom Boom. But I already knew that. Tbh though I already look at Amarr Emperor Family Station as your beauty salon. Saying hi in local is always my first priority and to get 5 mins of face-time with you Boom Boom, the true empress of Amarr, only goes to validate my status as Anoikin fashion elite. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38520	Posted - 2015.02.20 20:34:40 - [13] - Quote I think it's inevitable. When and in what form though? Who knows. It'll head that way on it's own, and already is. Already the stigma is all but gone surrounding avatars, more people are getting involved (including current/candidate CSMs) now days we have people asking for more items quite regularly, more features with their avatars. We have public workshops on TS regarding avatar development, with Devs in attendance (thank you corbexx <3). It'll keep growing gently and eventually people will want to be able to do something with these things they've spent so much time and money on. Boom Boom Longtime wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: More than just a pretty face, Boom Boom. But I already knew that. Tbh though I already look at Amarr Emperor Family Station as your beauty salon. Saying hi in local is always my first priority and to get 5 mins of face-time with you Boom Boom, the true empress of Amarr, only goes to validate my status as Anoikin fashion elite. Always making me blush Erica For better or worse, Boom Boom, I just tell it like it is. In the immortal words of my illustrious little assistant: Candi LeMew > It doesn't have to make sense. It's just the way it is. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38521	Posted - 2015.02.20 21:03:31 - [14] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: Malcanis wrote: The current and previous EvE EP s have publicly said they have no plans to work on wis. I don't know how to make it simpler for you. Then they're lying because every little advance in avatar development, from clothes to character creator, really is a step ultimately towards a WiS-like feature. Natural evolution, really. Just like the coming and going of exec producers. Yeah OK have fun denying reality. That's funny, I was going to say the same thing to you. Take a look around. When you try and simplify things for others it's often possible to lose sight of the bigger picture. You see the thing is something doesn't actually have to be on CCP's 'agenda' today for the player base to desire it and for it eventually come to fruition. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38840	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:21:46 - [15] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Please, for the sake of my sanity and my faith in humanity: please don't retort with an answer that boils down to "I'll hold my breath and scream and scream if I don't get what I want". I'm asking nicely here. Retort? Reading your colorful terms and embellishments tells me you're really not even worth a reply lol But I'll waste 5 mins of my time replying to you anyway because some people here have a modicum of respect for you. Really, these days, the only "lalala"s or tears seem to be coming from people against a WiS-like concept. Avatar lovers? Well they're having a ton of fun with what's already here and enjoy talking about it and where it could go, it's exciting for those who're into it. That's all it is really. But that seems to irritate folks like you and you just won't stand for it, devoted to saving us from ourselves it seems. Notice I use the term "WiS-like" and not "WiS", because I agree with you in the fact that the actual-WiS concept as we knew it before Incarna is gone. But I still believe we'll see something WiS-like at some point. So in the case of CCP are they talking about the old WiS concept? You seem to know, so you tell me. Or are they talking about every possible WiS-like concept? So I guess essentially you're asking me, if I polish away the dirt from your posts, is why am I optimistic about it? Well because over those 4 years that CCP have been saying they're not working on "WiS" they've still been quietly refining the avatar side of things, slowly releasing more items, engaging and taking the users seriously when we raise the topic (corbexx's TS workshop for instance). We're seeing the stigma vanish, we're regularly seeing enthusiastic or fun threads about avatars. We're seeing more and more people enjoy it and CCP responding. That's reason enough to be optimistic. But in addition of course in 1 or 2, maybe 5 or 10 years (who knows) time we'll see a ton of things changed or implimented here in EVE that aren't even on today's agenda or any agenda over the past 4 years or more. I'm sorry if my optimism bugs you. But I play my EVE, not yours. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38842	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:22:49 - [16] - Quote Feu dAstres wrote: Let's save the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth until after the last keynote of FanFest (only a month away), shall we? :-) I'm not sure if we should expect anything or otherwise at FanFest, from either perspective. For me it's merely a subject of interest and something I'm super-enthusiastic about. History has shown that things said or promised during FanFests don't always amount to much in the long run. Take this thread's very topic, for instance. But I believe over time we'll see further avatar content here. No, I cannot quantify my optimism with a reference to anything CCP have said directly (sorry Malcanis), but I draw it instead from what I see going on around me right now ... and what CCP have been doing subtly. Meantime I'm still having an absolute blast in EVE as things are, and am not demanding or screaming for anything at all. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 39228	Posted - 2015.02.24 08:46:00 - [17] - Quote Anslo wrote: Sibyyl wrote: Given that the avatars just sort of stand around and stare dead-eyed, you are talking about an experience about as immersive as this. I suppose they can stiff-walk into each other, bumping each other repeatedly. Bumping should reset the new Trapped In Another's CQ timer, so you'd have to wait for the timer to expire to leave that person's CQ. Fun! \o/ Edit: I haven't played a lot of MMOs besides EVE, so go easy on me here.. Dude, ***** seriously? That's a p narrow minded view of this . How about not generalizing something people would like for say, RP, or EVA, or some *, k thx BYE. You seem surprised lol Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!* Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 39258	Posted - 2015.02.24 21:31:22 - [18] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: That of course doesn't changes the inconvenient fact that some players want more avatar content. And getting it. I like your yellow catsuit. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 39258	Posted - 2015.02.24 21:34:56 - [19] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: You seem surprised lol EVE is very far from being the perfect RP platform. There are other games that are far better because people can more easily accept being an elf or a satyr or a fellow in a Star Trek uniform than they can accept being a spaceship. The nods to EVE's RP community are few and far between. Sure, there are exploding stars and Drifters which can be solo'd by Ventures, but none of those are particularly compelling enough in the whole. The RP experience is an afterthought and really only perpetuates itself because of the imagination and tenacity of that community. That said, Jen's idea grossly underestimates the development effort. I get this from CCP's clothing workshop where something as trivial to us as a new hair model was a ton of work for a developer (I believe they are not exaggerating one bit). Jen's idea also "opens" the CQ door without any modifications that would be a basis for immersion. Without a necessary amount of immersion the feature would not see widescale use. I don't think jumping on any novelty idea is particularly good for the game, even if short term it might seem like a cool thing to you. I support well formed ideas with a solid 30,000 foot view, not hacks conceived of on the back of a napkin without any long term value to the game. I haven't even read those posts so have no idea what you're talking about. I think you missed the context of my comment. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 39261	Posted - 2015.02.24 21:52:01 - [20] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Erica, I'm sorry I misunderstood you. And please go get some sleep Excuse me? Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries

Erica Dusette Isogen 5 51889	Posted - 2015.09.11 11:47:03 - [21] - Quote Everyday we be walkin'. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 51889	Posted - 2015.09.11 12:09:22 - [22] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: Everyday we be walkin'. Oh, but nobody walks in LA. My characters enjoy walking in stations all the time. Host friends, socialise, drink, enjoy dinners. You name it. Nothing quite like coffee with friends after dunking that T3 fleet or ganking some caps. Four channels alone dedicated to our family's palatial Amarr quarters home-away-from-home. Would be nice though if more of it could be seen and shared beyond imagination and an MOTD. But meanwhile there's no salt ... only suga. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 52069	Posted - 2015.09.12 19:32:39 - [23] - Quote Jill Xelitras wrote: I wanted to open a bar in Amamake and name it "Amagankme Bar" ... now I will never be able to fulfill that dream. Why not? I have a restaurant in Matari space. It doesn't have a witty or edgy name, though the lobster is unparalleled. Just poke if you and your special someone ever wish to utilize the channel sometime. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 52231	Posted - 2015.09.14 19:43:26 - [24] - Quote Everywhere that you have social interaction you have space content being generated as a result. Forums. Local. Convos. Teamspeak. Slack. Off-game forums/sites. You name it. To say providing more social platforms tied within the game won't produce any space content is kinda naive tbh. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 52231	Posted - 2015.09.14 19:50:51 - [25] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: Everywhere that you have social interaction you have space content being generated as a result. Forums. Local. Convos. Teamspeak. Slack. Off-game forums/sites. You name it. To say providing more social platforms tied within the game won't produce any space content is kinda naive tbh. Its naive that you dont realize that exact same social content is already provided by exactly the forums, local, convos, teamspeak,mslack, offgame forums/sites that you mention. Being able to walk around in a station while doing so does not add anything to those existing formats of social interaction. It just means you can walk, while you talk. Who cares? You really think people give a damn about your avatar exceot for the first 1 second impression? We already have everything we need here for a kickass game of blowing up spaceships too. So why are we asking for more or asking for improvements? The "but we can already.." argument is equally naive. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 52232	Posted - 2015.09.14 20:47:05 - [26] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Is there supposed to be a point in there somewhere? I dont see it. Absolutely, sir. I'll show you ... Salvos Rhoska wrote: Tbh Id be creeped the HELL out by people who choose to hang around in a station bar on their avatars. Boom. And here it is, ladies and gentlemen. You only ever need dig a little under the surface. This is the actual source of resistance to such a feature. Nothing to do with practicality, content, dev hours, etc. Those are just the superficial arguments that a lot of folks will try to peddle (and try rather hard for that matter). It's all social resistance. The perfect example to show exactly what I mean is ship skins. Here's a feature that adds absolutely nothing to any aspect of the game in any form. Yet as I write this post Devs are toiling in graphical interfaces to make more and more ship skins. They don't add content, they don't add immersion. They look the same every time you see them, it's not like John's Quafe Merlin or something will look any different to Matthew's Quafe Merlin, for example. People don't care if your ship is skinned or not, they won't pause on a gate and go "ohhh nice skin", in fact nobody will even know you have one unless you're on grid with a capital. Take all the technical arguments against avatar-features and apply them to ship skins. Suddenly skins seem like the most ridiculous thing ever added to the game. Yet here are hundreds of players pumping thousands of dollars into the game for these skins which don't even qualify as a vanity item. Little different to buying a custom colour for your EVE interface really. And sure, a lot of players actually feel like this and won't spend the money on skins. But because skins may seem pointless to one person, just like an avatar feature may, doesn't mean those who do find it meaningful somehow should be prevented from enjoying it. Overall it's good for the game anyway: $$. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 52232	Posted - 2015.09.14 20:59:53 - [27] - Quote Hello sir, I'm a roleplayer and it's nice to meet you. You've maybe seen some of my other characters around. They all have character bios on that site too. I've been kinda busy lately commissioning some lovely arts for them. And, I made my point perfectly I think. You just don't want to see it because you're too busy being creeped out and trying your best to make yourself feel better about that by trolling. Not gonna work on this old camel, sir. Edit: And please link my bio and blog properly if you're going to give it free plugs for me. GÖÑ Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 52232	Posted - 2015.09.14 21:04:27 - [28] - Quote Gives you creepy-eyed stare !!! Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 54127	Posted - 2016.01.01 19:09:22 - [29] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Of course it's more popular! Do you EVER actually think about what kind of people play these games?? I'm pretty happy with my Hatsune Miku outfit. Was only like $2.50 or something. Could really use some cute boots though and oh yeah, a mouth! Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 54190	Posted - 2016.01.02 03:55:40 - [30] - Quote The thing is EVE is already full of stuff that adds nothing to gameplay in a direct sense, stuff that's merely aesthetic or vanity related, and people continue to pay for it and demand/suggest more such additions. Ship skins, graphical improvements, engine trails, the list goes on and on. Including yes, even more avatar items too. Stuff doesn't have to add anything to gameplay directly, it just needs to add to a person's experience. By doing so it adds to gameplay for that person. See? We can't make swathing comments like "a WiS feature wouldn't add anything to the social dynamic" just because it wouldn't for you. There are plenty of people who think ship skins are a waste of time too. If we're running off the philosophy of "we can already do a thing so why add more ways to do it" then really we should just take EVE back to dots on a map or spreadsheets because every other part of the game is merely aesthetically related - we don't "need" any of it. And we all know that would be silly, so really the argument just doesn't stack up. Years ago EVE had the goal of being the 'Ultimate Sci-Fi simulator', not just a space ship simulator. I think that's an awesome concept and I still do today. Solecist Project wrote: Erica Dusette wrote: Solecist Project wrote: Of course it's more popular! Do you EVER actually think about what kind of people play these games?? I'm pretty happy with my Hatsune Miku outfit. Was only like $2.50 or something. Could really use some cute boots though and oh yeah, a mouth! You play EVE. I'm talking specifically about people who only play SL ... ... and would only join EVE for SLinSpace! Honestly I never really liked SL. Don't find the interface intuitive enough and the avatars just aren't pretty enough. But I dunno, can we really box people like that? I've played EVE now for around 6 years, I've played avatar based stuff (and simple text based mmo's) for much, much longer. Most people move and shift between the games they play over time regularly. I don't think there's a dedicated crowd of "strange" people who would suddenly emerge from the shadows of SL, abandon it and surge into EVE and ruin the game should an avatar based form of gameplay or interaction be added. That's a strange thing to be worried about honestly. More players is always awesome, whether they bring space and/or social content. Both are very important aspects of EVE's content imo. Personally I login and enjoy my own playstyle, and that's not effected at all by the thousands of other players who may be simultaneously enjoying a completely different playstyle while I'm doing so. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò Gû+ -¦-âss

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